|People are So Stupid
||[Jul. 11th, 2005|07:29 pm]
We're Classicists and we're bitter...
This guy is an idiot. Most of extant tragedy was written before Aristotle 'came up' with tragedy and comedy. WTF? What does he mean by 'came up' with tragedy and comedy?
"The Persians is the oldest play that's survived," Ridgely added. "It's usually lumped with the other tragedies, and it's certainly dark, but Aeschylus wrote it before Aristotle came along and came up with tragedy and comedy so it really doesn't fit well into either one."
Read the entire article: Aeschylus' War Play, 'The Persians,' Is Now a Comedy with Songs
I mean, I can sort of see where he's coming from. Aristotle was the first to define the genres of tragedy and comedy, to the best of my knowledge. By that, I mean he's the first guy we have on record as being something of a dramaturg.
There were sure as hell dramas and comedies written and performed before that, though, given that he had to have material to base his categorization on.
And it does, in fact, fit as an Aristotelian drama...just because the Greeks liked their political commentary dramas to have some comic interludes to break up the tension doesn't mean that it doesn't fit into either category!
I think the play itself might not be bad. it isn;t the problem. Its the tyranny of Aristotle that is the problem. what does he mean by 'came up' with tragedy and comedy? Were poor Aristophanes, Euripides, Sophocles and Aeschylus (not to mention the middle comedians and the other tragedians of the first half of the 4th century) mucking around blindly not knowing what they were writing? Please.
...and Isaac Newton invented gravity.
BTW, are you a student or prof at Wellington? I have a friend who is a prof there.
Neither at the moment. I was a student at Otago University.
I just work at Victoria Uni. Non-academic staff.
Who is your friend?
No, no, no...what I'm saying is that Aristotle was the first dramatug - he's the guy who wrote the definition of tragedy, based on the works of the brilliant playwrights who came before him.
They knew exactly what they were writing. It was just Aristotle who came and laid down the groundrules for analysing what they wrote.
I know what you meant. I just don't think that is what he meant.
I think he may have been told the facts and misunderstood them. He possibly wasn't paying attention at the time. Either way, I don't think he has a clue what he is saying.
my suspicion is that he was assigned poetics or a selection from it in a history of theater class but failed to actually read it or attend the lecture.