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confusion [Jul. 11th, 2005|08:02 pm]
We're Classicists and we're bitter...

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[cleo_eurydike]
Has anyone else read Colleen McCullough's The Song of Troy? I got it from the library, did a few chapter skims, freaked, and I'm about to take it back.

Wanted to know if anyone else had opinions on it, or could explain some of the odd choices that she makes.

Such as!
-Achilles having epilepsy
-the fight between Achilles and Agammemnon being staged
-Aeneas having an affair with Helen
-Achilles being lipless.

Now, I checked up on that last one, and confirmed that the meaning of the word "Achilles" is lipless. This never really meant anything to me, especially because of "his former name was Ligyron - because he had not applied his lips to a breast."

That seems to imply that Thetis never suckled him. Is there any evidence of her refusing to do so or even abandoning him as an infant?
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From: phasma_aphanes
2005-07-11 06:19 pm (UTC)
I have not read this and in fact i didnn't even know it existed. it is a shame if it sucks since first man in rome and the grass crown were so awesome (ahe did go downhill wiht the others).
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[User Picture]From: cleo_eurydike
2005-07-13 12:08 am (UTC)
I've heard it been said that her Roman fiction is far superior. So, yeah, she's not a total lost cause. Did take some risks. Made some crazy mistakes, and the risks didn't pay off, but she took some risks.
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From: phasma_aphanes
2005-07-13 06:16 am (UTC)
First Man and Grass Crown (the first two i the Roman series) are probably the best ancient fiction written. She really knows her sources and creates a city and characters that are so real you can't but believe she was there. truly awesome.
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[User Picture]From: cleo_eurydike
2005-07-13 12:49 pm (UTC)

the best ancient fiction?

Have you ever read Mary Renault?
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From: phasma_aphanes
2005-07-13 12:50 pm (UTC)

Re: the best ancient fiction?

oh yes. and she really doesn't come close.
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[User Picture]From: cleo_eurydike
2005-07-13 01:14 pm (UTC)

Re: the best ancient fiction?

Well, you and I have different tastes then.
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From: phasma_aphanes
2005-07-13 01:18 pm (UTC)

Re: the best ancient fiction?

hold you opinion on that until you have actually read first man in rome. then get back to me.
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[User Picture]From: bela_black
2007-11-01 10:39 am (UTC)
Oh yes, I've read this only a few weeks ago.

I found it rather thrilling, although I didn't like the style of writing too much. Way too posed, somehow. I could just imagine the author sitting on his/her desk, trying to find the right words to let it sound thouroughly "Ancient".

But there were some interesting ideas, most of which you mentioned - like the Agamemnon/Achilles fight being staged. I often wondered how Achilles who's such a warrior would refuse to fight only because of the fight over some girl.
Well, it clearly was a different perspective.

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